"Celtic Fans put Proposals to Celtic and the SFA"
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:35 pm
What chance do we have if the Chief Executive of Scottish Football doesn’t know the rules? Or is it a case of Gordon Smith using his own form of interpretation? He informed us that the rules of FIFA state the referees word is final, absolute nonsense; no where in FIFA rules does it state that; if it did then the English Premier League would be breaking the rules.
What is needed in Scotland is a complete overhaul of the rules and regulations within the Scottish game. We are not asking for special treatment for Celtic; we are asking; no change that; we are demanding rules that are transparent; rules that take away from the referee the one and only say WHEN REVIEWING any incident; and most importantly there must be accountability, like in any other walk of life; if someone continues to get it wrong they must be removed from their position; we are talking about decisions that have multi-million pound consequences for a team like Celtic; and certainly were major contributing factors in Tony Mowbray and his assistants losing their jobs.
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76][SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]What are we doing about it? Well today we have sent a proposal to Celtic’s Chief Executive Peter Lawwell; it gives 100% support to Celtic’s call for change in matters dealing with discipline. It also sends a message that the Celtic support has lost all confidence in the SFA to deal impartially and with total honesty. It also points out the financial input of the Celtic support; not only to Celtic Football Club; but indeed to all the clubs in Scotland; and while we wouldn’t think of doing anything which would affect Celtic financially, the same cannot be said of the other clubs; so be warned.[/SIZE:dfcf1e76][/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]The campaign for justice has started; it requires the 100% support of all Celtic fans; everyone has a part to play. We must make sure that the people in authority within Scottish Football get the message that we have turned the other cheek for the last time; we will no longer stand idly by and watch our great club being cheated, and our fans being treated like second class citizens.[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]Hail Hail, Keep the Faith.[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]Dear Peter,[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]1 We the undersigned welcome the approach Celtic have made to the SFA re disciplinary matters as we believe it reflects the mood of Celtic supporters everywhere and as expressed at the latest Open Meeting of supporter groups.[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]2. As a result of evidence accumulated during this football season 2009/10, the Celtic support in all forms, who are major contributors to the financial* well being of the game in Scotland, have lost confidence in the ability of the Scottish Football Association (SFA) to administer professional football in Scotland in manner that reflects their duty of care to all aspects of the game and everyone who takes part in it.[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]3. That loss of confidence has increased significantly as a result of the SFA’s response to Celtic from Gordon Smith justifying the status quo on disciplinary matters relating to appeals and the use of the Review Panel, with an interpretation of FIFA rules that appears misleading, self serving and inaccurate. [/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]4. Those represented at the meeting wanted changes in Disciplinary Procedures that made them more [/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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[*]Independent of the referees.[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]We believe this feeling permeates throughout the Celtic support and we note that the English FA operate a system with a Regulatory Commission that meets the above criteria without breaking FIFA rules, real or imaginary, and urge and encourage Celtic to pursue the implementation of a system on similar or improved lines in Scotland.
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[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]5. The Celtic support, for the good of the game, are determined that procedures change and are prepared to use our position as major financial contributors to Scottish Football to bring about what are reasonable, fair and just changes. We also ask Celtic to convey our concerns to the appropriate authorities as they see fit viz:[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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[*]Football Authority in Scotland (The SFA)
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[*]And Europe (UEFA)[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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[*]Civil authority (on the issue of proper governance of football.)[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76][SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]And ask if the Review of Scottish Football being conducted by Henry McLeish can look into the wider matter of transparency and accountability at the SFA as whole.
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[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76][SIZE=3:dfcf1e76]Signed by : [/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76][SIZE=3:dfcf1e76]1/ Celtic Supporters Association[/SIZE:dfcf1e76][/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76]2/ Celtic Trust[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76]3/ The Junglebhoys[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76]4/North American Federation of Celtic Supporters Clubs
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[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76]5/[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76] [/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]* Note: [SIZE=2:dfcf1e76][SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]As a club, we are 1 member of the SFA (i.e. 2.5% share of voice), however as supporters with average gates of 55,000+ then we represent approx 33% of the 170,000 CUSTOMERS who pay to watch Scottish Football.[/SIZE:dfcf1e76][/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76][COLOR=#333333:dfcf1e76][SIZE=2:dfcf1e76][COLOR=#333333:dfcf1e76][SIZE=2:dfcf1e76][COLOR=#333333:dfcf1e76]Having 2.5% customer dissatisfaction is a problem,33% is a disaster waiting to happen.[/COLOR:dfcf1e76][/SIZE:dfcf1e76][/COLOR:dfcf1e76][/SIZE:dfcf1e76][/COLOR:dfcf1e76][/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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What is needed in Scotland is a complete overhaul of the rules and regulations within the Scottish game. We are not asking for special treatment for Celtic; we are asking; no change that; we are demanding rules that are transparent; rules that take away from the referee the one and only say WHEN REVIEWING any incident; and most importantly there must be accountability, like in any other walk of life; if someone continues to get it wrong they must be removed from their position; we are talking about decisions that have multi-million pound consequences for a team like Celtic; and certainly were major contributing factors in Tony Mowbray and his assistants losing their jobs.
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76][SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]What are we doing about it? Well today we have sent a proposal to Celtic’s Chief Executive Peter Lawwell; it gives 100% support to Celtic’s call for change in matters dealing with discipline. It also sends a message that the Celtic support has lost all confidence in the SFA to deal impartially and with total honesty. It also points out the financial input of the Celtic support; not only to Celtic Football Club; but indeed to all the clubs in Scotland; and while we wouldn’t think of doing anything which would affect Celtic financially, the same cannot be said of the other clubs; so be warned.[/SIZE:dfcf1e76][/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]The campaign for justice has started; it requires the 100% support of all Celtic fans; everyone has a part to play. We must make sure that the people in authority within Scottish Football get the message that we have turned the other cheek for the last time; we will no longer stand idly by and watch our great club being cheated, and our fans being treated like second class citizens.[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]Hail Hail, Keep the Faith.[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76] [/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]Dear Peter,[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]1 We the undersigned welcome the approach Celtic have made to the SFA re disciplinary matters as we believe it reflects the mood of Celtic supporters everywhere and as expressed at the latest Open Meeting of supporter groups.[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76] [/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]2. As a result of evidence accumulated during this football season 2009/10, the Celtic support in all forms, who are major contributors to the financial* well being of the game in Scotland, have lost confidence in the ability of the Scottish Football Association (SFA) to administer professional football in Scotland in manner that reflects their duty of care to all aspects of the game and everyone who takes part in it.[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76] [/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]3. That loss of confidence has increased significantly as a result of the SFA’s response to Celtic from Gordon Smith justifying the status quo on disciplinary matters relating to appeals and the use of the Review Panel, with an interpretation of FIFA rules that appears misleading, self serving and inaccurate. [/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76] [/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]4. Those represented at the meeting wanted changes in Disciplinary Procedures that made them more [/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]
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[*]Transparent,
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[*]Accountable and[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]
[*]Independent of the referees.[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[/LIST:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]We believe this feeling permeates throughout the Celtic support and we note that the English FA operate a system with a Regulatory Commission that meets the above criteria without breaking FIFA rules, real or imaginary, and urge and encourage Celtic to pursue the implementation of a system on similar or improved lines in Scotland.
[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76] [/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]5. The Celtic support, for the good of the game, are determined that procedures change and are prepared to use our position as major financial contributors to Scottish Football to bring about what are reasonable, fair and just changes. We also ask Celtic to convey our concerns to the appropriate authorities as they see fit viz:[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]
[LIST:dfcf1e76]
[*]
[LIST:dfcf1e76]
[*]Football Authority in Scotland (The SFA)
[/LIST:dfcf1e76]
[/LIST:dfcf1e76]
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[*]
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[*]And Europe (UEFA)[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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[*]Civil authority (on the issue of proper governance of football.)[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]
[*] [/SIZE:dfcf1e76][/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[/LIST:dfcf1e76]
[/LIST:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76][SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]And ask if the Review of Scottish Football being conducted by Henry McLeish can look into the wider matter of transparency and accountability at the SFA as whole.
[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[/SIZE:dfcf1e76][SIZE=3:dfcf1e76][SIZE=3:dfcf1e76] [/SIZE:dfcf1e76][/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76][SIZE=3:dfcf1e76]Signed by : [/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76][SIZE=3:dfcf1e76]1/ Celtic Supporters Association[/SIZE:dfcf1e76][/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76]2/ Celtic Trust[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76]3/ The Junglebhoys[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76]4/North American Federation of Celtic Supporters Clubs
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[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76]5/[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=3:dfcf1e76] [/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[/SIZE:dfcf1e76]* Note: [SIZE=2:dfcf1e76][SIZE=2:dfcf1e76]As a club, we are 1 member of the SFA (i.e. 2.5% share of voice), however as supporters with average gates of 55,000+ then we represent approx 33% of the 170,000 CUSTOMERS who pay to watch Scottish Football.[/SIZE:dfcf1e76][/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
[SIZE=2:dfcf1e76][COLOR=#333333:dfcf1e76][SIZE=2:dfcf1e76][COLOR=#333333:dfcf1e76][SIZE=2:dfcf1e76][COLOR=#333333:dfcf1e76]Having 2.5% customer dissatisfaction is a problem,33% is a disaster waiting to happen.[/COLOR:dfcf1e76][/SIZE:dfcf1e76][/COLOR:dfcf1e76][/SIZE:dfcf1e76][/COLOR:dfcf1e76][/SIZE:dfcf1e76]
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